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This interview was originally published March 22nd 2023 for the All Hands On Deck Podcast hosted by Katherine Macbean.
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Katherine Macbean is a founding member of both The People's Health Alliance (PHA) and The People's Food and Farming Alliance (PFFA).
The PHA is creating an alternative global decentralised people-led integrative healthcare model via local hubs that empower and support people to take back control of their own health.
The PFFA brings farmers and communities together to ensure we the people have access to ethical, natural and nutritional food production.
In this episode, Katherine is joined by Robito Chatwin, hypnotherapist and founder of the Conscious People's Network (CPN), a community formerly known as Covid Positive News.
Robito explains how CPN started with an article he shared January 16th 2022 from The Pulse that Japan is promoting freedom of choice between its vaccinated and unvaccinated citizenry stating “no vaccination will be given without consent” and "do not discriminate."
He continues with how community members then started contacting him to offer their services and so he created the CPN Mentors, a group of skilled professionals offering free support session to the CPN Community.
Now Covid “has gone away,” Robito explains how CPN is now transitioning to the Conscious People’s Network, with everyday ordinary people doing extraordinary things all being able to share their content into the channel.
Read this article by America’s Frontline Doctors for more about CPN and the exciting transition underway right now.
Katherine shares how she had preconceived ideas about hypnotherapy, and asks Robito to explain what hypnosis and hypnotherapy actually is.
Robito explains the science why focusing on the present is so beneficial, refers to the Piraha tribe who have no language for the past or future and are considered to be the happiest people on Earth, and then explains how to get from ‘now’ into the hypnogogic state, and the power of connecting to our subconscious.
Robito then goes into how we are in an abusive relationship with the system, and just like any abusive relationship, we first need to accept this, then process it, find likeminded people for support, and finally walk away - just like the PHA and PFFA are doing - and links this to hypnotherapy and releasing our stress.
Katherine adds that a byproduct of creating the health hubs has been that people have built their own support networks for each other, and when we feel good and are doing our inner work, we are so much more effective for others.
Robito and Katherine then discuss the ‘phases of awakening’ we all go through, and Robito talks about the Karpman drama triangle (see the interview with Sue Parker Hall for an even more in depth analysis of this) and agrees we can only offer our best to others once we have found balance within.
Katherine expands that now “we’re in the delightful wonderful position where there are absolutely thousands of us out there who are awake and aware to what this reality looks like, and so you can go out there and work on that with support now, with practitioners who know what they are doing,” because “If we’re entering into this new world, this beautiful world, we don’t really want to take too much baggage with us do we? We wanna kind of leave that behind.”
We then discuss the importance of speaking our truth, but not bombarding people with facts, and instead being an example: “If you’ve got someone who’s super sporty come over to you and tell you you need to do more exercise, the only thing you’ll do is go and have a beer,” points out Robito.
Katherine then discusses the goodness, innocence and purity in those who just can’t believe that there can be people out there “that can be so awful,” and how we can funnel any anger or frustration we have into focusing on helping those people, groups and organisations focusing on solutions, converting that anger and frustration into feeling empowered - “and thus make a difference.”
Robito shares how he came to the same conclusion: “If we focus on that, we feel good, and if we focus on the problem, we feel bad,” and if we focus on the solutions, that is also a reality, but then we are moving in the right direction rather than stuck in our grief and anger.
Katherine agrees that we should not be angry with people “for not waking up,” but focus that anger on the system - the abusive societal structures - and now is an exciting opportunity to ignore those hideous crumbling power structures, and “funnel our energy into each other and building the new.”
“We have to remember,” adds Robito, that “many people woke up before us and many people are gonna wake up after us.” One thing we can all do, Robito adds, is be there to support people through the transition and help people feel safe.
“The amount of manipulation that is required from the system and those people that are really at the top that are managing it all, actually shows just how powerful we are,” elaborates Robito. Robito then explains why Mass Formation, or Mass Hypnosis, is not hypnosis:
First you need to isolate people, so they need to feel isolated. The second one is they need to feel meaningless. Then they need a constant threat to focus on (which is where the ‘hypnosis’ comes in) which makes people feel frustrated and angry and then, as a consequence, the authorities provide the solution.
“So just the amount of manipulations that’s required to get us to do things that we wouldn’t ordinarily do, to buy things that we wouldn’t ordinarily buy,” adds Robito, “is massive, and that just goes to show that we’re not easily controlled actually.”
“It’s far wiser for us to funnel our energy into building the new, and having a good time doing that, and ignoring what they’re saying because you’re just eradicating the need for them,” concludes Katherine.
Robito adds that Dr. Mattias Desmet, the author of The Psychology of Totalitarianism, says himself that as societal structures collapse, the solution to Mass Formation is to have better alternatives available for the masses.
Robito finishes with some of the many physical and emotional benefits of focusing on positive emotions, solutions and a glass half full perspective.
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The People’s Health Alliance
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https://t.me/covidpositivenews
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https://freedomhypnosis.org
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Katherine Macbean talks with Robito about hypnosis, CPN & focusing on solutions